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![]() Tribal Visions: A Conversation with Marcus Leatherdale
Marcus Leatherdale is an accomplished photographer whose dramatic black and white portraits document everything from the
decadent New York art scene to the Indian holy city of Benares. His work has appeared in various publications including
The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Details and Interview and has been exhibited at galleries and
museums worldwide. In the past two years, Leatherdale has taken portraits in hundreds of rural villages in India in the hopes
of preserving a record of tribal culture and history in the face of modernization and assimilation. A retrospective of
Leatherdale's work in India opened September 21 at the Dialectica Gallery in New York City and runs for six weeks.
View an online exhibit of Marcus Leatherdale's work. You started your career taking photographs of celebrities in New York, like Madonna and Keith Haring.
What made you decide to make the move from documenting New York's art world to tribal people in India?
The two worlds seem to be polar opposites.
While you have also photographed Indian wrestlers and holy men, much of your work is focused on
adivasis, or tribal people. Why did you decide to focus on adivasis? How is adivasi culture changing? It's been changing drastically. India is changing and the tribals are changing least of all. There are over 20 million tribals in India, in every state except Hariyana. I am based in Bihar, but I will travel to all of them in time. I have photographed in Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, West Bengal. I'm going up to Assam next year…. So I just take what I can. Strangers and friends; one contact leads to another. Soon everyone knows I'm this crazy martian going around photographing tribals, which makes me the most interesting thing that's happening in most people's lives at that moment. And they want to be a part of it and they want to help.... [My work] documents the way tribals live before the change. I'm not politically correct by a lot of people's standards. I have a tunnel vision of India. I'm not documenting the changes in the way India is. I'm not interested in the way India is; other people can do that…. There are tribals sitting around in baseball caps who don't even want to know about being tribal. I'm not photographing that. I'm singling out the traditionalists who represent their tribes in their true ethnic culture. Why is that more important to you? Because it's something that's going to disappear. Who cares about homeboys and the global village and baseball caps? That's going to be around for along time and what's going to be gone are tribals and tigers and rhinos and drinking water and all those things we take for granted…. All of these things are being snowplowed into a generic global village which I am really quite opposed to. Do you think your work is political?
Isn't this a romantic notion of Indian culture though? How does your work differ from colonial portraits of India? Initially I looked at colonial pictures [from India] and I thought these could be such extraordinary pictures if there wasn't such a barrier between the person who shot it and the "specimen"…. I certainly hope my pictures aren't coming off as that. I'm just trying to depict the pure cultural aspects of India up to the point where they've all decided that in order to be modern, they've got to be Western. And that irritates me. You can be modern without being American; I think that is possible. To see people who are willing to trade off thousands and thousands of years of glorious traditions just so they can be modern is deplorable. So if you want to call that romanticism, fine. But at the same time you advocate modern Western medicine in these villages in India. I'm not saying that India shouldn't be modern, I'm just saying they shouldn't trade off all this culture and tradition and that is what I'm trying to show and keep that aspect of India in my mind. That's what I seek out, that's what interests me. There are Indians who... are willing to throw away everything just to be MTV. I don't have to agree with that. I don't think it works there. It creates a lot of unrest and dissatisfaction because it can only be a facsimile at best, if that. They can't afford to have that kind of lifestyle…. So India becomes a dumping ground for all of this second and third and fourth rate Americanesque black market stuff that doesn't work and breaks down and the next thing you know, India has become a graveyard for broken old plastic contraband…. And it's sad to see that…. What is it like viewing these photographs in a New York gallery setting? There's something very uneasy
about looking at pictures of impoverished villagers when you're surrounded by affluence a
world away. I think this work is anthropologically important in the long run and not just a nice coffee-table book. Maybe it will be a reference book in the future. If I can get all these tribals down, it will take my whole life. And whether it's poetry or political and people think it's romantic or not, people can view that as they choose. Interview conducted by Michelle Caswell of AsiaSource.
All photos courtesy of Marcus Leatherdale.
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